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no need to PM.

there was a thread in the mod section about the aforementioned thread already prior to all of this.

to be honest, I quickly looked at the page and read through what was going on and figured that it was going downhill so I closed the thread earlier tonight and left for a bit.

now, I'm reading it somewhat thoroughly so I can issue a response and/or see what action needs to be taken.

there's a fine line between what's offensive and what constitutes free speech and I believe that too much control can stifle free speech but too little can lead to personal attacks and fighting and then the line becomes severely blurred. I'm not going to go into legal standards, b/c it's an Internet message board for god sake, but rather my own standard which is usually the test for porn "I'll know it when I see it."

I'm not defending anyone, but I do think Rev made the distinction that Sean's personal attack was inappropriate and that he would let the discussion continue in the hopes of not inhibiting speech. How would you like it if someone said that they hope you and your family gets killed? Rev warned Sean and then as we all know unfortunately that posting PM's on MBWorld is a no-no and thus the ban resulted.

Jangy, I completely understand where you're coming from. If I was of Iranian descent I would be equally as angered--hell, some of the stereotypes angered me. I didn't know that there was a history between you and AMGDriven and I wish I would have known and just locked the thread before things got out of hand. His comments were not appropriate and should have been reprimanded.

I know I'm new, but I know and have been informed that before banning anyone, that they should be pre-warned (like Sean). Thus, I can't really ban AMGDriven, but I'm going to put AMGDriven On Probation, but unfortunately I feel that I may also need to do the same to you to be equally as fair due to the barrage of responses that you issued prior to the lock.

Please give me your thoughts.
 

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jangy said:
WHAT CAN YOU WARN ME AGAINST?

What exactly did I say or do? to be fair? You saying that my defense of my people in any way was at the biggot level of his? Do what you need to. i will do what i need to. I will never stand for such hatred to be spread about my race. I was mending my fences with EVO, but that doesn't mean you can have a center for hatred.

Ban me for all I care. the lawyers get access to it all.
Jangy, I'm sorry. I re-read it. I must have read it too quickly. I thought people would have issues with the "******" comments, then I re-read it. It's not really that offensive. I'm not going to issue squat.

I actually re-read all your comments and yeah, they were defensive and I'm not going to do it. The post on MBWorld will be edited.
 

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Does that suffice Jangy? I told you guys to give me your friggin thoughts.

BTW man, this is one thing I'm not going to stand for, are you REALLY going to file a 1st Amendment claim against an Internet Message Board? Please be a little bit more rational. Don't shoot the messenger, why do you think I posted here? I wanted to get your thoughts and your side of the story, something that I can't get just from reading and re-reading the posts.
 

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Jangy, believe me, I know the other mods and they are not trying to make MBWorld a haven for hate. I will also personally see to it that it will not be a haven for hate, but there are only so few mods and we all have jobs and can't really go through threads with a fine tooth comb. I hope you can understand.
 

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jangy said:
nlpamg said:
Jangy, I'm sorry. I re-read it. I must have read it too quickly. I thought people would have issues with the "******" comments, then I re-read it. It's not really that offensive. I'm not going to issue squat.

I actually re-read all your comments and yeah, they were defensive and I'm not going to do it. The post on MBWorld will be edited.
I am sorry as well. Is it done? What about AMGDriven. Will you take action there, or just ignore all of it?
I'm TRYING to take action, but b/c I'm a newb mod I can't figure out how to put him on probation. :wack: if I can't do it tonight, I'll have someone do it tomorrow morning.
 

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damn, apparently probation is a more harsh sanction that requires warning as well. I'm issuing him an infraction. I'll see about the probation tomorrow, but you need to be an admin and I'll see what we can do tomorrow.

my apologies, I'm a n00b.
 

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jangy said:
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jangy said:
Apparently, that position is reserved for me. Lucky for me, Phil is the one cleaning up.
dude, I wanted to hit you up on aim before I posted anything on here but you were offline!
I get into shutting ignorance up. Next time just pm / email me and I'll listen to you. VIC55 does it all the time and I listen.
thanks man, will do and if you feel that anything is getting out of hand please feel free to pm or e-mail me.
 

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egutie6970 said:
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myMBonline FTMFW!!!!!!
:clap: :clap: :clap:

i haven't visited mbworld in ages...

and for the who mention, that someone here will pm one of hte mods over there... i know one of them thats in here thats a lil snitch :wack:

and no-- he has not post it on this thread yet...so all of yall are :thumbup: :thumbup: in my book...now bak to school :wall:
what are you talking about man? have you read this thread? what purpose does "snitching" have at this point and at all for that matter? it's been resolved. stay in school.
 
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